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In a discussion concerning who is President Trump’s heir apparent to lead the Make America Great Again movement, fired MSNBC host Joy Reid is pushing the possibility that Vice President JD Vance might throw his “brown” Hindu wife Usha “under the bus” to hook up with “white queen” Erika Kirk, the widow of slain civil-rights leader Charlie Kirk.
“They can’t have the successor to MAGA be the guy with the brown Hindu wife,” Reid speculated. “They’re also Christian nationalists. That ain’t gonna work. That’s why he’s throwing his wife under the bus.”
NEW: Joy Reid says “illegal” is the ‘N’ word for brown people, fantasizes about JD Vance leaving his wife, Usha, because she is “brown” for Erika Kirk.
“Vance has a problem in that the base of MAGA is fundamentally racist.”
“They use the term illegals, which is just the N-word… pic.twitter.com/37SExiLXZ8
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 25, 2025
Leftist podcaster Jennifer Welch chimed in to describe Vance’s Oct. 29 hugging of Mrs. Kirk at the University of Mississippi, saying: “Playing slap and tickle with Erika Kirk is the weirdest s*** I’ve ever seen. She’s like in her Tammy Faye [Bakker] era.”
Reid added: “Holding on the back of his head and rubbing on his head.”
JD Vance actually did not place his hands on Erika Kirk’s hips.
So please use this clip to debunk that lie if you see it.https://t.co/2pC2iCKcuV pic.twitter.com/CGY7XJQE7K
— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) October 31, 2025
“You not doing the right thing. You supposed to be a widow. You wearing leather pants! That’s not widow-wear.”
“But wouldn’t it be the most perfect fairytale, MAGA fairytale, if he finally sees the light that he needs a white queen instead of this brown Hindu? I’m not saying that’s happening.”

Reid said in her analysis of the vice president: “Vance has a problem in that the base of MAGA is fundamentally racist,” claiming both the tea party and MAGA movements are motivated by “race and hatred of non-white immigrants.”
“They’re obsessed with non-white immigrants and undocumented people. They use the term ‘illegals’ which is just the N-word for brown people. If you want to say the N-word and it’s about brown people, you say ‘illegal.’”
Reid said other potential MAGA leaders were Donald Trump Jr. and Tucker Carlson.
Erika Kirk addressed the famous hug with Vance, telling journalist Megyn Kelly: “Anyone whom I have hugged, that I have touched the back of your head when I hug you, I always say, ‘God bless you.’ That’s just me. If you want to take that out of context, go right ahead.”
.@MrsErikaKirk addresses the uproar over the JD Vance hug:
“Whoever is hating on a hug needs a hug themselves… I’m walking over, he’s walking over, I’m starting to cry, he says, ‘he’s so proud of you,’ and I say, ‘God bless you,’ and I touch the back of his head… If you want… pic.twitter.com/0PwB1SwNNS
— The Megyn Kelly Show (@MegynKellyShow) November 24, 2025
Kelly clowned that commentators were acting as if she had grabbed the vice president’s “ass.”
“I feel like I wouldn’t get as much hate if I did that!” Kirk responded.
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