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Erika Kirk and Second Lady of the United States Usha Vance at the University of Mississippi tour stop of the 'This Is The Turning Point' tour at the SJB Pavilion in Oxford, Mississippi, on Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025 (Photo courtesy Gage Skidmore)

Vice President JD Vance hugs Erika Kirk on stage at the University of Mississippi on Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025 (Video screenshot)
Vice President JD Vance hugs Erika Kirk on stage at the University of Mississippi on Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025

In a discussion concerning who is President Trump’s heir apparent to lead the Make America Great Again movement, fired MSNBC host Joy Reid is pushing the possibility that Vice President JD Vance might throw his “brown” Hindu wife Usha “under the bus” to hook up with “white queen” Erika Kirk, the widow of slain civil-rights leader Charlie Kirk.

“They can’t have the successor to MAGA be the guy with the brown Hindu wife,” Reid speculated. “They’re also Christian nationalists. That ain’t gonna work. That’s why he’s throwing his wife under the bus.”

Leftist podcaster Jennifer Welch chimed in to describe Vance’s Oct. 29 hugging of Mrs. Kirk at the University of Mississippi, saying: “Playing slap and tickle with Erika Kirk is the weirdest s*** I’ve ever seen. She’s like in her Tammy Faye [Bakker] era.”

Reid added: “Holding on the back of his head and rubbing on his head.”

“You not doing the right thing. You supposed to be a widow. You wearing leather pants! That’s not widow-wear.”

“But wouldn’t it be the most perfect fairytale, MAGA fairytale, if he finally sees the light that he needs a white queen instead of this brown Hindu? I’m not saying that’s happening.”

Erika Kirk and Second Lady of the United States Usha Vance at the University of Mississippi tour stop of the 'This Is The Turning Point' tour at the SJB Pavilion in Oxford, Mississippi, on Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025 (Photo courtesy Gage Skidmore)
Erika Kirk and Second Lady of the United States Usha Vance at the University of Mississippi tour stop of the ‘This Is The Turning Point’ tour at the SJB Pavilion in Oxford, Mississippi, on Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2025 (Photo courtesy Gage Skidmore)

Reid said in her analysis of the vice president: “Vance has a problem in that the base of MAGA is fundamentally racist,” claiming both the tea party and MAGA movements are motivated by “race and hatred of non-white immigrants.”

“They’re obsessed with non-white immigrants and undocumented people. They use the term ‘illegals’ which is just the N-word for brown people. If you want to say the N-word and it’s about brown people, you say ‘illegal.’”

Reid said other potential MAGA leaders were Donald Trump Jr. and Tucker Carlson.

Erika Kirk addressed the famous hug with Vance, telling journalist Megyn Kelly: “Anyone whom I have hugged, that I have touched the back of your head when I hug you, I always say, ‘God bless you.’ That’s just me. If you want to take that out of context, go right ahead.”

Kelly clowned that commentators were acting as if she had grabbed the vice president’s “ass.”

“I feel like I wouldn’t get as much hate if I did that!” Kirk responded.

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